I’ve had many conversations with ADA Minion … my most recent (prior to this week) was with a PhD on twitter, here is that post, “Primal Fun with a PhD“. What is an ADA Minion? In brief it is anyone who…. a) Promotes the ADA Way diabetes treatment of “Carbing Up and Shooting Up” b) Who profits from such ‘promotion’. I talk about it here in this post, “You Might be an ADA Minion” and clarify it here, “Reader Comment“.
The formating for this post is not the best, I had difficulty pasting from Google Plus… hope you can read and follow it. :)
Is ADA Minion meant to be a Derisive Phrase?
…. you bet. BUT that does not mean that I believe ADA Minion meet behind closed doors and decide how they are going to keep diabetics on drugs and insulin… I do not. However that is THE outcome of their “carb up and shoot up” philosophy. It increases drug and insulin usage for most diabetics….that’s a fact.
Note: As you read the following post(s) … keep this question in mind. Of the (4) responses … which one best describes his reasons?
Meet the MD
Dr Dean Jenkins DipMedEd, FRCP qualified from Cardiff and trained as a consultant physician (general medicine / geriatrics). He has developed interests in the care of people with diabetes (particularly the elderly) and the education of health professionals.
– Developing a distance learning diploma in diabetes (diabetesdiploma.com) on behalf of BMJ Learning and validated by Leicester University and is advising and negotiating on the development of other distance learning diploma / MSc courses.
Previously a Consultant Physician at Princess of Wales Hospital, Bridgend, he has also worked on the Consensus Guidelines for Diabetes Mellitus across Wales (Designed for the Management of Adults with Diabetes Mellitus across Wales: Consensus Guidelines. 2008) as chair of the sub-group for Standard 4 (Clinical Care of Adults with Diabetes)
First Discussion
If you have difficulty reading this section due to formatting, here is the actual post on GooglePlus
https://plus.google.com/107432884544968913388/posts/5E83nnUyXuE
The doctor did ignore my request for someone who was a vegan and who had weaned off drugs and insulin…
Second Discussion
Here is the post in GooglePlus if you have difficulty reading this here.
https://plus.google.com/107432884544968913388/posts/U9dBe8g7prS
“It involved very, very low carbohydrate diets that left patients alive but on the brink of starvation.”
… my REPLY.
You seem to be sincerely interested in diabetes treatment… but you must stop looking at it from that of a doctor… a pill or drug prescriber. Look at it from the patient stand point.
High carb meal plans tax the pancreas in Type 2’s… eventually leading to pancreas failure. Nothing good comes of eating a high carb meal plan… nothing.
1) You are still AVOIDING the issue. The question was not if someone was “reversing”. Please…Just answer yes or no… do you know anyone who is following a vegan meal plan who has weaned off drugs and insulin AND who has normal blood sugar? If the answer is yes and they are willing to do so… please have them email me at cooksey.steve@gmail.com
2)
a) “not all patients have the capabilities to follow diets.” … tsk tsk. So the ‘diabetes industry’ plays god and decides… we’re not going to tell the majority of diabetics about low carb because some can’t do it??? Don’t worry… you are the first to come up with this excuse.
b) “in an ideal world yes but but not all people can. ”
Since not everyone can… the “diabetes industry”…tells almost no one about it??? This can not make sense to you.
How many lives could be saved if MORE were told and encouraged to go low carb??? And <gasp> even encouraged and coached how to do so…. c) re: Dietitians… yes… that’s probably the saddest part of this ‘exchange’. .. Dietitians pushing grains and carbs… how’s that working out for diabetics?
90% failure rate according to industry report.
https://www.diabetes-warrior.net/2011/03/04/is-90-failure-rate-good-enough/
So the answer is to have them continue eating the same ‘diabetes diet’ … that IS the definition of Insanity.
Think critically … for yourself. Carbs = glucose = need for drugs and/or insulin. Concerning your comment about “live a normal life” … do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Seriously? re: normal … 90% of diabetics FAIL … amputations, organ loss … neuropathy… all rampant.
What the hell is normal about that???
I eat meats and vegetables and I thrive! … In your version of normal … it means taking more and more drugs and insulin… just so a person can eat grains and sugar.
I do appreciate this opportunity for exchange.
Above was my last comment, I’ve not heard back from the doctor in a couple of days. Should he reply, you shall have it.
Summary
To be honest I was very disappointed… it really was more of the same old ‘excuses’.
“Not all can do it” and “they deserve to be eat like normal people” …
EVEN if that’s true and it’s not… don’t ‘they’ deserve a choice?
Don’t diabetics deserve to HEAR about low carb paleo meal plans and the successes?
Above all … STOP RIDICULING THOSE THAT DO IT!
Damn it… give them a fighting chance.